The Social Work Stories Podcast
The Social Work Stories Podcast - Ep. 01 Redux (Ep. 64)

The Social Work Stories Podcast - Ep. 01 Redux (Ep. 64)

December 28, 2021

Join us as we revisit Episode 1 of the Social Work Stories Podcast. It's a special time as we recently crossed three years creating this podcast, and thought we would share our thoughts and reflections on the way we've grown, changed, and also stayed the same as we have build the SWS community. 

 

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion of the death of a young child. If this subject is likely to cause you distress, please choose another episode from our podcast feed.

Have any burning thoughts after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy & Mim Fox

Producers - Justin Stech & Ben Joseph

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 27 December 2021)

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SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 3 - Ep. 63

SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 3 - Ep. 63

December 14, 2021

As you discovered in parts 1 and 2 of the SEED series, we've been working on something BIG and we're so excited to share the third and final chapter with you! 

Join Mim and Lis as we find out what SEED is, how it was developed, and why it made such a difference for a small community hospital on the South Coast of NSW. Learn what #kindnessworkshere means, hear harrowing first-hand experiences of the Black Summer bushfires, and experience community development in action as the staff of this hospital come together to create something new. 

We think this is a model of recovery and community development that will challenge and inspire, no matter what context you're based in. 

This is episode 3 of 3. Please listen to Parts 1 and 2 before enjoying this episode - make sure you're subscribed in your podcast app of choice so you never miss an episode. in the future 

 

Have any reflections after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 14 December 2021)

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SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 2 - Ep. 62

SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 2 - Ep. 62

December 7, 2021

As you discovered in part 1 of the SEED series, we've been working on something BIG and we're so excited to share the next chapter with you! 

Join Mim and Lis as we find out what SEED is, how it was developed, and why it made such a difference for a small community hospital on the South Coast of NSW. Learn what #kindnessworkshere means, hear harrowing first-hand experiences of the Black Summer bushfires, and experience community development in action as the staff of this hospital come together to create something new. 

We think this is a model of recovery and community development that will challenge and inspire, no matter what context you're based in. 

This is episode 2 of 3. Please listen to Part 1 before enjoying this episode, and keep an eye out for the final chapter, Part 3 which will release in one week - make sure you're subscribed in your podcast app of choice so you never miss an episode. 

 

Have any reflections after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 07 December 2021)

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SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 1 - Ep. 61

SEED: Stories of Bushfire Recovery Part 1 - Ep. 61

November 30, 2021

We've been working on something BIG and we're so excited to share it with you! Social Work Stories are bringing a special series of episodes exploring the SEED Program, and we're so excited for you to hear all about it. 

Join Mim and Lis as we find out what SEED is, how it was developed, and why it made such a difference for a small community hospital on the South Coast of NSW. Learn what #kindnessworkshere means, hear harrowing first-hand experiences of the Black Summer bushfires, and experience community development in action as the staff of this hospital come together to create something new. 

We think this is a model of recovery and community development that will challenge and inspire, no matter what context you're based in. 

This is episode 1 of 3. Parts 2 and 3 will be released in the coming two weeks - make sure you're subscribed in your podcast app of choice so you never miss an episode. 

 

Have any reflections after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 30 November 2021)

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Ubuntu in Social Work: I Am Because We Are - Ep. 60

Ubuntu in Social Work: I Am Because We Are - Ep. 60

October 26, 2021

Ubuntu - I Am Because We Are. It was the theme of World Social Work Day in 2021, and we thought we would take some time to unpack what it means and where it comes from. 

Join Mim and Lis as we hear from two social workers who hail from Zimbabwe, who share their own perspectives of Ubuntu and how the concept developed across the continent of Africa - as well as a gripping story from the field.

Hearing from a diverse range of perspectives across the global Social Work community is so important to us, and Ubuntu captures the essence of that value. Have a listen and let us know what you think!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 26 October 2021)

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What‘s Waiting Behind The Door: Social Work and Community Aged Care - Ep. 59

What‘s Waiting Behind The Door: Social Work and Community Aged Care - Ep. 59

September 28, 2021

Sometimes you have to take a deep breath, prepare yourself for whatever's behind that door, and knock. 
Join Mim and Lis as we hear a story from a Community Aged Care setting, about a social worker who's making an initial home visit for an elder man in the community. Safe to say, things don't go according to plan! Hear how this social worker problem-solves with the client at the centre, and ultimately how she supports him to get the help he needs. Mim and Lis break down the story and discuss some of the issues in the aged care sector. This is a great practice story and we're sure you'll be putting new ideas into your practice kit as you listen. 

Have any burning thoughts after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 28 September 2021)

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Burnout and Self-Care in Social Work: We Share Our Stories - Ep. 58

Burnout and Self-Care in Social Work: We Share Our Stories - Ep. 58

August 31, 2021

Self-care is not a weekly yoga class or a glass of shiraz. Join Mim and Lis for a bit of a different episode, where we share our own stories & experiences of burnout, and discuss how burnout and self-care sit within modern social work practice. 

A few resources mentioned in this episode:

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 31 August 2021)

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I Need to Keep Her Safe: Domestic Violence in the Emergency Department - Ep. 57

I Need to Keep Her Safe: Domestic Violence in the Emergency Department - Ep. 57

July 27, 2021

Join Lis and Mim as we listen to a riveting story from an Emergency Department Social Worker, who tells the story of working with a patient who's partner is using violence in the home. This social worker opens the door to us with each step of the process, from referral, information gathering, strategising and working directly with this woman to wrap her with support. This incredible access will be valuable for listeners no matter your context. 

Have any burning thoughts after listening, or just want to say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

As mentioned in the episode, here's a link to the NSW Health Domestic Violence Policy: https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/parvan/DV/Publications/procedures-dom-violence.pdf

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 27 July 2021)

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Centering Social Justice in Social Work Supervision - Ep. 56

Centering Social Justice in Social Work Supervision - Ep. 56

June 29, 2021

Join Lis and Mim as they break down the themes of a rich conversation Mim shares with Deanne Dale, all about Social Justice in Supervision. Deanne shares from a wealth of practice experience and a career of supporting other social workers in their practice through rich supervision approaches. Be sure to listen out at the start of the episode as Mim and Lis share some specific themes to watch for, and have a notepad ready to write down your own reflections. 

You can find out more about Deanne Dale on her website, www.socialworkwise.com

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 29 June 2021)

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A Conversation About Coronial and Forensic Social Work, Part 2 - Ep. 55

A Conversation About Coronial and Forensic Social Work, Part 2 - Ep. 55

May 25, 2021

Join Lis and Mim for the second-half of a very special interview as they sit down with two social workers from NSW Health Pathology’s Forensic Medicine Service, for an in-depth exploration of all thing forensic social work. Learn about what they do, who they work with, and how the team supports one another to keep delivering a service while looking after themselves. This episode is part 2-of-2, as the conversation was so fantastic that we couldn't help but keep recording! If you haven’t listened to part one, please take the time to go back and listen to Ep. 54 first - you won’t regret it!

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 25 May, 2021)

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A Conversation About Coronial and Forensic Social Work, Part 1 - Ep. 54

A Conversation About Coronial and Forensic Social Work, Part 1 - Ep. 54

April 27, 2021

Join Lis and Mim for a very special episode where they sit down with two social workers from NSW Health Pathology’s Forensic Medicine Service, for an in-depth exploration of all thing forensic social work. Learn about what they do, who they work with, and how the team supports one another to keep delivering a service while looking after themselves. This episode is part 1 of two, as the conversation was so fantastic that we couldn't help but keep recording! 

Make sure to listen until the end, as Mim and Lis share exciting news about a milestone the team has achieved...

With a quarter of a million thank-you's from all of us on the Social Work Stories team, happy listening! 

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 27 April 2021)

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Exploring Community Development and Social Work in the Stockholm Projects - Ep. 53

Exploring Community Development and Social Work in the Stockholm Projects - Ep. 53

March 30, 2021

Join Lis and Mim as they listen to a story from a social worker based in Stockholm, Sweden, who shares his experience of carrying out community development practices in the social housing projects there. The story revolves around a group of young men who are given the opportunity to participate and lead in a whole new context, and the changes that come from creative social work.

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Assistant Producers - Hamish Cole and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 23 February 2021)

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It Takes a Village: Social Work in Community Youth Mental Health - Ep. 52

It Takes a Village: Social Work in Community Youth Mental Health - Ep. 52

February 23, 2021

Join Lis and Mim for a story from a social worker who shares his experience of working in a community youth mental health setting. The story revolves around a young woman who journeys through complex mental health in the midst of a challenging family and social context.

Stick around for an announcement from the team at the end of the episode.

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Mim Fox

Producer - Justin Stech

Assistant Producers - Noni Reginato, Hamish Cole and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 23 February 2021)

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Mental Health Social Work and the Great Australian Ratbag Ep. 51

Mental Health Social Work and the Great Australian Ratbag Ep. 51

February 9, 2021

Join Lis and friend of the podcast Bec for a story from a social worker who shares her experience of working in a mental health social work setting. The story revolves around a man who the social worker praises as an Australian Ratbag. Hear more about working with people who might come across as a little bit different than what society expects, and using creativity in practice to respond to their needs while championing their autonomy. 

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Bec Garvie

Producers - Justin Stech and Mim Fox

Editing - Hamish Cole

Assistant Producers - Noni Reginato and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 9 February 2021)

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The Dark Place: Working with a Suicide Caller (Ep. 10 Redux)

The Dark Place: Working with a Suicide Caller (Ep. 10 Redux)

January 27, 2021

Our team is taking a break to enjoy the Aussie summer and exhale after a long year. But we didn't want to leave you without. So please enjoy a replay of one of our favourite episodes, "The Dark Place - Working with a Suicide Caller". It originally released on April 1, 2019.

Our anonymous social worker takes you through one of her most difficult stories while working for a mental health crisis line. Throughout this episode we walk the line of uncertainty, risk and harm in the dark place of suicide prevention and crisis support. Please look after yourselves as you listen.

We also have a very special guest join us to unpack it all. Be sure to stay with us the whole way through the episode to hear a hauntingly beautiful song that means so much to us!

 

Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Dr. Mim Fox.

Producers - Ben Joseph & Justin Stech.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

 

Contact us online at www.socialworkstories.com, follow our facebook page or use the handle @SOWKStoriesPod on twitter or instagram.

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

Social Work in a Maximum Security Prison: A Story of Creative Practice in Social Work (Ep. 15 Redux)

Social Work in a Maximum Security Prison: A Story of Creative Practice in Social Work (Ep. 15 Redux)

January 12, 2021

Our team is taking a break to enjoy the Aussie summer and exhale after a long year. But we didn't want to leave you without. So please enjoy a replay of one of our favourite episodes, "Social Work in a Maximum Security Prison: A Story of Creative Practice in Social Work".

 

When a social worker works in a maximum security prison, and she opens with the line - "He was really intimidating!", you can be sure it will be a story worth listening to. Join your hosts Lis & Mim as they unpack the creative practice of another one of our fantastic social work storytellers. 

 

Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Dr. Mim Fox.

Producers - Ben Joseph & Justin Stech, with special thanks to Brenna Lorkin.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

 

Contact us online at www.socialworkstories.com, follow our facebook page or use the handle @SOWKStoriesPod on twitter or instagram.

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

Removing the Children, Receiving a Mug - A Child Protection Story - Ep. 06 Redux

Removing the Children, Receiving a Mug - A Child Protection Story - Ep. 06 Redux

December 29, 2020

Our team is taking a break to enjoy the Aussie summer and exhale after a long year. But we didn't want to leave you without. So please enjoy a replay of one of our favourite episodes, "Removing the Children, Receiving a Mug":

Join your hosts Mim & Lis as they take a few steps into the dynamic and challenging world of social work in the child and family sector. Be prepared to be challenged and inspired by this story of an early-career social worker thrown into a difficult situation.

Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Dr. Mim Fox.

Producers - Ben Joseph & Justin Stech.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

 

Contact us online at www.socialworkstories.com, follow our facebook page or use the handle @SOWKStoriesPod on twitter or instagram.

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

A Social Worker, A Client, and a Long Journey of Support - Ep. 49

A Social Worker, A Client, and a Long Journey of Support - Ep. 49

December 15, 2020

This one is a little different - join Lis and Mim for one story from two perspectives -  the social worker and the client both! Hear the way Bek and Paul have worked together for over a decade, learned from each other, and journeyed through multiple crises. This incredible story will break your heart, sew hope, and challenge your perspective - it certainly astounded our team!

 

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

 

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Dr. Mim Fox.

Producer - Justin Stech.

Assistant Producers - Hamish Cole, Noni Reginato and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

 

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 15 December 2020)

Contact us online at www.socialworkstories.com, follow our facebook page or use the handle @SOWKStoriesPod on twitter or instagram.

Social Work from an Aboriginal Perspective - Exploring Cultural Load - Ep. 48

Social Work from an Aboriginal Perspective - Exploring Cultural Load - Ep. 48

December 2, 2020

Join Mim and friend of the podcast Denkia Thomas for a story from a social worker who shares her perspective on being Aboriginal and practicing social work. In this vibrant story, she details the richness of cultural understanding within her practice, but also the challenges of "cultural load".

This episode may contain some terms and concepts that are not familiar to some of our listeners, especially those who live outside of Australia. Here's a handy guide to some of the terms you may have heard, and what they mean.

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Credits:

Hosts - Dr. Mim Fox and Denika Thomas

Producer - Justin Stech and Lis Murphy

Editing - Hamish Cole

Assistant Producers - Noni Reginato and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 2 December 2020)

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Social Work with Gender & Sexuality Diverse Communities - Ep. 47

Social Work with Gender & Sexuality Diverse Communities - Ep. 47

November 17, 2020

Join Lis and Mim for a conversation with Sarah Etter, who shares insights into work with gender and sexually diverse communities. The discussion delves into both the big-picture concepts of equality-building, and many practical tips for weaving inclusivity and respect into your practice, no matter what context you work within. Sarah generously shares with us their passion and motivation, lived experience, and wisdom from the field.

Do you have thoughts, want to contribute a story or question for the team, or just say hello? Send us an email on socialworkstoriespodcast@gmail.com - we'd love to hear from you!

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Credits:

Hosts - Lis Murphy and Dr. Mim Fox.

Producer - Justin Stech.

Assistant Producers - Hamish Cole, Noni Reginato and Felix Kiefel-Johnson.

Music - 'Mama' by Ben Grace (copyright 2018). Find on Spotify, or at www.bengracemusic.com

Social Work Stories©️ (Copyright 17 November 2020)

Contact us online at www.socialworkstories.com, follow our facebook page or use the handle @SOWKStoriesPod on twitter or instagram.

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